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Discuss ideas for the 2010 Cannonball

Postby bagel » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:23 pm

old as dirt wrote:
bagel wrote:The sooner you stop thinking of the Cannonball as a race, the better you'll understand what it's all about. ;)

IT's not? then why have points and declare a winner. Why not just call it a gatherin and a ride across country.

Well, it is a gathering and it is a cross-country ride, plus it's also a competition. However, not every competition is a race. The difference is that there is no prize, and it's not all about speed - it's about efficiency. It's about minimizing your stops, keeping your bike running and navigating accurately, as much as it is about maintaining a fast pace. You can build the fastest scooter of all time, but it's not gonna get you there if it breaks down after 50 miles on the first day. The primary goal is to make it to the end; the secondary goal is to do it as well as you and your scooter possibly can.

In addition to that, there's also the fact that it's illegal to race on public roads. If you were to get caught taking part in an actual race, you'd run the risk of being arrested, having your vehicle impounded or seized, receiving a massive fine, and getting points on your license or possibly losing it altogether. I don't think that anybody would want to risk that, so that's one more reason why the Scooter Cannonball Run is a cross-country endurance competition - not a race.
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Postby old as dirt » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:37 pm

bagel wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
bagel wrote:The sooner you stop thinking of the Cannonball as a race, the better you'll understand what it's all about. ;)

IT's not? then why have points and declare a winner. Why not just call it a gatherin and a ride across country.

Well, it is a gathering and it is a cross-country ride, plus it's also a competition. However, not every competition is a race. The difference is that there is no prize, and it's not all about speed - it's about efficiency. It's about minimizing your stops, keeping your bike running and navigating accurately, as much as it is about maintaining a fast pace. You can build the fastest scooter of all time, but it's not gonna get you there if it breaks down after 50 miles on the first day. The primary goal is to make it to the end; the secondary goal is to do it as well as you and your scooter possibly can.

In addition to that, there's also the fact that it's illegal to race on public roads. If you were to get caught taking part in an actual race, you'd run the risk of being arrested, having your vehicle impounded or seized, receiving a massive fine, and getting points on your license or possibly losing it altogether. I don't think that anybody would want to risk that, so that's one more reason why the Scooter Cannonball Run is a cross-country endurance competition - not a race.


all the points are good. So why not have a large bore class. Navigation, personal endurance, tactics, all play the major factors in this run.
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Postby mogeewogee » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:28 am

[quote="old as dirt"]
all the points are good. So why not have a large bore class. Navigation, personal endurance, tactics, all play the major factors in this run.[/quoe]


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Postby jimT » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:47 pm

---heck, i'm giving 5-to-1 odds that 'old as D' is just a spectator!!! :roll:
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Postby howardr » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:04 pm

I read through the rules but might have missed this, but, is there a maximum number of riders in the CBR. In other words, am I going to have to rush and get my entry $ in ASAP after registration opens?

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Postby OopsClunkThud » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:50 am

howardr wrote:I read through the rules but might have missed this, but, is there a maximum number of riders in the CBR. In other words, am I going to have to rush and get my entry $ in ASAP after registration opens?

Howard


No, there is not a cap on the number of riders.
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Postby feb31st » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:58 am

howardr wrote:I read through the rules but might have missed this, but, is there a maximum number of riders in the CBR. In other words, am I going to have to rush and get my entry $ in ASAP after registration opens?

Howard


Registering does allow you into the riders only area of the forum... all of the important hotel planning, etc is handled there.
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Postby howardr » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:47 am

And when does registration start?

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Postby OopsClunkThud » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:16 pm

howardr wrote:And when does registration start?

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Expect it shortly after the new year.
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Postby 4n6iscool » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:12 pm

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Postby roughcut » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:12 pm

I think the 13" wheel rule needs to be revised, several scooters in the 250 and under classes have 14" and even 16" wheels and this excludes them and me. Please take this under advisement. I think this would be a fantastic adventure, and I would like to partake if possible. Thank you
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Postby jimT » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:28 pm

---roughcut,,, go back to rules 2.1.1 and read carefully!!!, "AT LEAST ONE"!!!
if it's a scooter it will have............AT LEAST ONE.............. wheel size does'nt
disqualify a true scooter....

---not being able to read will make riding the CBR2010 really tough, though!

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Postby rocket » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:22 am

i love this thread, its awesome....lol.
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Postby maroy » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:32 pm

rocket wrote:i love this thread, its awesome....lol.


I am with you rocket. By the end of the cannonball one will know where they stack up compared to the other competitors.

The points don't really amount to anything, there were folks who finish behind me in points that I know are better riders than I am, they were just unlucky. I know I could never do the rides you do or fix the shit you can fix: props dude and stay away from my unit.
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Postby bagel » Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:10 am

OopsClunkThud wrote:
howardr wrote:I read through the rules but might have missed this, but, is there a maximum number of riders in the CBR. In other words, am I going to have to rush and get my entry $ in ASAP after registration opens?

Howard


No, there is not a cap on the number of riders.


Well, to be honest, I've been wondering if this might not be a bad idea after all. In the past, there haven't been a huge number of riders, I think the most was 33 in 2006... at least that's how many started. But the thing is though, what if it turns out that a whole bunch of people are interested in doing the 2010 Cannonball? Would I be able to handle coordinating everything if there are 50 riders or more? I'm not sure if I could deal with even that many. I suppose I could wait and see how many sign up. However, I will reserve the right to cut off registration at some point if I feel that the number of riders is becoming too unwieldy.

My recommendation would be to keep your eyes on this forum in January and register once the registration has opened. I'd prefer to get all of that taken care of as soon as possible, at least for those who are 100% committed to going. I'm sure that registration won't fill up immediately anyway, but I would ask those who are sure to go, to register right away.

Happy holidays... stay tuned for more details soon!
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